This case research was initially printed on MarketingSherpa on April 11, 2018.
Denis Mrkva, Basic Supervisor, HealthSpire, lately visited MECLABS Institute (dad or mum analysis group of MarketingSherpa), and we had the chance to interview him about an fascinating touchdown web page experiment that was in progress on the time. Denis additionally shared what occurred after the touchdown web page — specifically, how he staffs and runs a name heart that really offers worth to clients.
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Earlier than you learn or watch the complete case research, it’s vital to get in the precise way of thinking. Which touchdown web page do you assume will carry out higher? And why? Take into consideration that, then proceed on to the case research to higher perceive your personal assumptions and study what the information confirmed. Maybe you’ll uncover a brand new paradigm to take your advertising to the following degree.
Right here, we provide an abbreviated 5-minute model of the video interview. Or you’ll be able to watch the complete 21-minute model. However if you happen to want to learn as an alternative of watch, you’ll be able to learn the complete transcript of the dialog under the article. Leap to full transcript.
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HealthSpire is a subsidiary of Aetna, a $63 billion managed well being care firm based in 1853. HealthSpire serves Individuals 65 and over with Medicare, Medicare Benefit and Medicare Complement insurance coverage. It additionally affords ancillary merchandise for dental, imaginative and prescient, most cancers, coronary heart assault and stroke.
HealthSpire additionally serves two different teams with its advertising — people who’ve but to show 65 however are starting to analysis Medicare merchandise and youngsters or caregivers of people who find themselves or will quickly be eligible for Medicare.
About 18 months in the past, HealthSpire created a touchdown web page to get potential clients to study extra about Medicare by means of a cellphone or chat dialog and, in the end, register for Medicare plans.
Artistic Pattern #1: Unique touchdown web page
“Our speculation was that we need to have one thing that’s quick and never complicated. What we have been afraid of was that extra data will create extra confusion, leading to a unfavorable consequence. So we determined to go together with a primary management model, easy, simply outlining merchandise we’ve got with out entering into depth. And giving them an opportunity to contact us by way of cellphone, schedule a name or chat with us,” mentioned Denis Mrkva, Basic Supervisor, HealthSpire.
Nevertheless, a couple of months after launching the web page, Mrkva’s staff realized that it wasn’t working.
“After which, I used to be lucky to be referenced to MECLABS [Institute] and Flint [McGlaughlin] by my supervisor. And once we began speaking to MECLABS, the lights went on. A lightweight bulb went on.” — Denis Mrkva
“I noticed that this self-discipline that MECLABS has in truly understanding the related content material, understanding the viewers that we need to service, understanding the merchandise, is the way in which to go,” Mrkva mentioned.
“So we engaged with MECLABS to create a brand new set of touchdown pages which might be truly centered on how a client want to work together with us, and particularly they’re very focused [to] client segments who is probably not that digitally savvy,” he defined.
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The staff analyzed the present HealthSpire touchdown web page and recognized an issue: It had a scarcity of credibility hurting its main, process-, and product-level worth propositions required to construct belief with potential clients and create a perceived worth in talking with a HealthSpire agent.
In spite of everything, most clients usually are not enthusiastic about getting on the cellphone with an agent or a gross sales rep. They have to first perceive the worth of that dialog to beat the nervousness of a gross sales name, along with the effort and time they’d put money into such a dialog.
Based mostly on that evaluation, the staff created the next analysis query:
Will the addition of main and product-level worth, coupled with the emphasis of worth on a “Trusted Advisor,” drive extra calls?
And based mostly on that, they created the speculation: By offering emphasis on the trusted advisor worth reasonably than overwhelming prospects with the varied Medicare merchandise and plans choices, we are going to generate extra leads and requests for calls than the management.
From that speculation, they designed two therapy touchdown pages and launched an experiment.
Artistic Pattern #2: Remedy 1 — lengthy web page
Artistic Pattern #three: Remedy 2 — Brief web page
Denis visited in the course of the experiment, and the outcomes we mentioned within the video have been intermediate outcomes earlier than the experiment closed. The ultimate outcomes additionally confirmed that the longer touchdown web page carried out higher, producing 638% extra leads.
Worth of longer touchdown web page outweighs its friction
Guests (legitimate leads solely) who noticed the longer web page — which included extra HealthSpire/agent worth copy and imagery — have been extra more likely to name than those that noticed the less complicated web page with much less content material in regards to the brokers and HealthSpire values.
In different phrases, the extra worth offered within the longer web page outweighed the extra friction from having an extended web page.
Humanizing the model added enchantment and visualizing the brokers lowered nervousness
Understanding that they have been going to be talking with a pleasant agent might have helped them visualize how the dialog can be and lowered their nervousness.
Artistic Pattern #four: TeleAgent Tip from successful touchdown web page therapy
“What we came upon by working with MECLABS and testing issues is that, on the finish of the day, what we’re asking any person to do is name us and discuss to an individual,.” — Denis Mkrva
“So having truly the particular person or the individuals who the purchasers might be speaking to on the location, and truly having the chance to get to know the brokers earlier than they name, and supply the content material that can truly create a relationship between the client and the agent on the location even earlier than they name us, are among the the explanation why we imagine that Remedy 1 is doing rather a lot higher.”
Artistic Pattern #5: Q&A with TeleAgent from successful touchdown web page therapy
All of it begins with creating actual worth for the client
The longer touchdown web page labored as a result of it did a greater job of accelerating the perceived worth of contacting a TeleAgent. Nevertheless, for this technique to work, Mrkva first made certain to create actual worth in interacting with the TeleAgents, that might then be communicated on the touchdown web page.
“A part of that worth is the folks we make use of. If you concentrate on the brokers that work for HealthSpire, all of our brokers are school graduates,” Mkrva mentioned. “The query turned, how can we create a name heart tradition that turns into a worth proposition for the faculty graduates?”
A technique Mrkva’s staff creates the worth proposition for school graduates is by creating an atmosphere the staff can thrive in. For instance, they stability time on the cellphone with time reflecting on what they realized from earlier calls — to assist perceive the psychology behind conversations they beforehand had and optimize future conversations. Understanding the folks they’re speaking to, not simply the merchandise they’re promoting and a script they’re studying.
“It’s maybe the toughest sale you may make.What you’re making an attempt to do is, in actual time with out wanting on the particular person, persuade the person who when you have the precise product for them and their wants, that is the precise factor to do and to decide that might be very impactful on their well-being and monetary well being of their family funds.” — Denis Mrkva
A customer-first advertising method
Not solely is there worth for purchasers who name into HealthSpire as a result of the TeleAgents are effectively educated, however worth additionally comes from the kind of folks the corporate hires and the customer-first philosophy behind the recommendation these brokers supply on the calls.
“What we search for is — and it’s not simple, it’s not simple to guage folks in an interview — is integrity. It’s important to do the precise factor,” Mrkva mentioned.
“We’re looking for the precise answer for the client. And if there isn’t a proper answer for the client with us, we is not going to promote.” — Denis Mrkva
“Really, we’ll suggest both stick with what you may have, or possibly you must go and name different suppliers which have a product, as a result of we will help them discover the higher product. Regardless that we can’t promote to them, we will inform them there’s … firm X [that] has this product, so you could need to go to this website,” he mentioned.
This method helps with worker satisfaction and engagement as effectively.
“It’s human nature. Our nature is to assist any person. So we have to allow folks to be folks within the office,” Mrkva mentioned. “When you have the precise folks and if you happen to make them pleased and content material, our clients might be pleased and content material.”
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Full Transcript of Video Interview
Daniel Burstein: In our advertising, we’ve got a number of assumptions about what we predict will work. We’ve that golden intestine. A type of assumptions is, lengthy type doesn’t work. Folks need quick, they need fast. They need quippy. Effectively, that’s why you’ve obtained to check and experiment and see what works. And we’re going to take a look at an experiment right now that challenges that mannequin.
Hello, I’m Daniel Burstein. I’m the Senior Director of Content material at Advertising and MECLABS Institute. And I’m joined by Denis Mrkva, the Basic Supervisor of HealthSpire, a subsidiary of Aetna. Thanks for becoming a member of us, Denis.
Denis Mkrva: Thanks for having me.
Daniel: So, right here we’re going to take a look at an experiment that your staff ran with MECLABS Institute. So let’s simply begin, pull it up on the display, and we’ve obtained the management and Remedy 1 and Remedy 2. Let’s simply begin by telling us about HealthSpire briefly. Who’re they? How does HealthSpire serve a buyer?
Denis: Effectively, HealthSpire is an Aetna subsidiary. And as such, we provide a portfolio of Medicare merchandise for the seniors within the nation which might be eligible to buy Medicare, Medicare Benefit, Medicare Complement, in addition to ancillary merchandise reminiscent of dental and imaginative and prescient, most cancers, coronary heart assault and stroke. Actually we’re making an attempt to guard as a lot as we will and allow folks to have that safety holistically for his or her well being.
Daniel: Okay. And so once we take a look at this touchdown web page, what was the objective of the touchdown web page?
Denis: Effectively, the objective of the touchdown web page, if you happen to take a look at the primary, the management model, that’s when HealthSpire began a yr and a half in the past. And as you mentioned, all of us need issues to be shorter, cleaner and to the purpose. Sadly, whenever you cope with very complicated merchandise in an business reminiscent of healthcare, it isn’t that simple to do.
Nevertheless, a yr and a half in the past once we began HealthSpire, the belief was, or speculation was, that we need to have one thing that’s quick and never complicated. What we have been afraid of was that extra data would create extra confusion, extra friction, therefore, leading to a unfavorable consequence. So we determined to go together with a primary management model, easy, simply outlining merchandise we’ve got with out entering into depth. And giving them an opportunity to contact us by way of cellphone, schedule a name or chat with us.
Daniel: Let’s check out it. So what have been you making an attempt to do with these two therapies?
Denis: Okay, then a couple of months after beginning up that web page, we realized it’s not working. We realized one thing is occurring. After which I used to be lucky to be referenced to MECLABS and Flint by my supervisor. And once we began speaking to MECLABS, the lights went on. A lightweight bulb went on. I noticed that this self-discipline that MECLABS has in truly understanding the related content material, understanding the viewers that we need to service, understanding the merchandise, is the way in which to go.
So we engaged with MECLABS to create a brand new set of touchdown pages which might be truly centered on how a client want to work together with us and particularly inaudible very focused client segments who is probably not that digitally savvy. And so we began engaged on a couple of completely different prototypes.
Once more, we wished to have one thing that has a bit extra data, it’s extra informative, however give two completely different appears and feels. One can be with much more data, in depth. One other one with much less data, that may actually service nearly as a passthrough to individuals who have already finished their analysis. After which we launched.
Daniel: Yeah. So now you’ll be able to see, if you happen to’re watching too, take a look at the quick versus the lengthy. And take into consideration that for a second. I feel most individuals would assume, you’ll be able to see how for much longer that web page is, quick goes to work higher. It’s fast, the whole lot is correct there, folks don’t need to learn by means of issues which might be lengthy. Let’s take a fast take a look at the outcomes.
So now let me point out these outcomes. They’re fairly astounding. We’re nonetheless in the course of this experiment. Denis simply occurs to be becoming a member of us at our headquarters in Jacksonville, Florida, right here. In order that’s why we’re discussing it now. The outcomes aren’t full but. However take a look at these early numbers. That’s fairly astounding of how effectively the lengthy type is doing.
Denis: It’s doing nice, truly. And what we came upon by working with MECLABS and testing issues is that, on the finish of the day, what we’re asking any person to do is name us and discuss to an individual. So having truly the particular person or the people who the purchasers might be speaking to on the location, and truly having the chance to get to know the brokers earlier than they name, and offering the content material that can truly create a relationship between the client and the agent on the location even earlier than they name us, are among the the explanation why we imagine that Remedy 1 is doing rather a lot higher.
Daniel: I feel what you’re doing there’s a course of degree worth proposition. Proper?
Daniel: You’re not making an attempt to promote all of HealthSpire, your whole whole product. All you’re making an attempt to do is get somebody to make a name. And that could possibly be a motive why the lengthy type works higher as a result of who amongst us is like, “Sure, I need to get on a name with somebody to promote me. That’s what I need to do. Let me seize that cellphone quantity proper now.” No. It’s important to promote them on the worth of the decision, proper?
Denis: Sure. And the a part of that worth is the folks we make use of. If you concentrate on the brokers that work for HealthSpire, all of our brokers are school graduates. We imagine that because the product itself and the business is definitely very complicated in comparison with another industries I labored in, reminiscent of client finance or the P&C insurance coverage business — it’s closely regulated, it has a various set of merchandise and plans, and to really perceive that, we do need to make use of individuals who have cognitive expertise. And I feel a certificates of getting cognitive expertise within the nation is having a university diploma.
So we wished to essentially attempt to determine how do we — and I ran analytics for a while in my earlier profession the place we had at all times a chance to rent folks with a excessive degree of training — the query turned, “How can we create a name heart tradition that turns into a worth proposition for the faculty graduates who simply spent possibly $40,000 or $50,000 on their training, and now we’re asking them to be on the cellphone?” It wouldn’t be interesting to me in any respect.
After which additionally, inform our clients that to ensure that us to service them, it has to begin with our workers first, how we practice them, how we deal with them, how we work with them, how we develop them. And that connection that’s being finished on the digital touchdown web page or the longer model is exhibiting outcomes. It’s working.
Daniel: If we have a look deeper into the outcomes of conversions, we see there’s additionally extra conversions for the longer web page. It’s clear, you’re not simply getting extra folks, you’re getting in all probability higher leads. But in addition, what you’re doing on the decision heart facet is working.
So let me ask you about that as a result of we lately did a case research with The Globe and Mail, a big Canadian newspaper, and so they have a name heart there. And what they have been telling me is, the true problem is, (you in all probability have a much bigger problem than this) is there’s such excessive turnover in name facilities that they don’t actually get individuals who perceive the product sufficient. Proper? So what they needed to do is create this messaging information and actually give all of them the knowledge essential to even somebody who’s solely there a short while to know the product.
It’s fascinating what you discuss. You will have even a much bigger problem. Understanding a newspaper is one factor. Understanding a posh product that you simply in all probability your self don’t use since you’re not a senior citizen, is tougher. So what are a few of your techniques to, one, scale back turnover and create a working atmosphere that’s amenable, and two, to teach them to allow them to assist educate their clients and actually perceive the product?
Denis: Effectively, that’s fascinating as a result of let’s suppose that we’re working a basketball staff. That’s our enterprise, and as a coach and basic supervisor, we present up for a sport and we understand that our gamers don’t know the best way to play the sport. Whose fault is that? It’s the coach and the supervisor’s. So the very very first thing that we realized is that to ensure that folks to do their jobs, we not solely want to seek out the precise expertise and onboard that, however we have to constantly work on teaching them day in and day trip.
And thru the method, the toughest half is how do you discover a stability between them doing their job and having sufficient time to develop them into efficient workers. However not solely at knowledgeable degree, how do you assist them personally develop themselves and get them prepared for another jobs throughout the firm or outdoors the corporate? So in a short time we realized all of it comes right down to tradition and atmosphere.
What I imply by that’s that, see, once we ask any person to be on the cellphone 9 or 10 hours, it’s humanly unattainable to be centered on speaking to buyer after buyer with out being able to really take a while off and replicate on, “What was I speaking about within the final name that made me do effectively versus now?”
Then we have to allow them to begin studying about the truth that speaking on the cellphone with any person is maybe the toughest sale you may make, and it has rather a lot to do with the psychology of individuals reasonably than simply studying the product. As a result of what you’re making an attempt to do is, in actual time with out wanting on the particular person, persuade the person who when you have the precise product for them and their wants with that, that is the precise factor to do and to decide that might be very impactful on their well-being and monetary well being of their family funds.
Now to do this you additionally have to take out product information, you could begin serving to them to know the significance of listening, significance of having the ability to lead folks within the dialog by means of sure decision-making that you need to do on their behalf. So in a short time we realized it’s not solely about realizing the product and having a script that you could learn, it’s about exploring behind, what’s behind a sale. On the cellphone, it has to do with the psychology of individuals and skill of individuals to regulate their method to the client given the variations they’ve listened to on the cellphone.
Daniel: It feels like empathy.
Daniel: Is that one thing that you simply search for whenever you’re hiring? Empathy?
Denis: What we search for is — and it’s not simple, it’s not simple to guage folks in an interview — is integrity. It’s important to do the precise factor. And what are we doing right here? We’re looking for the precise answer for the client. And if there isn’t a proper answer for the client with us, we is not going to promote.
Really, we’ll suggest. Both stick with us or possibly you must go and name different suppliers which have a product — as a result of we will help them discover the higher product. Regardless that we can’t promote to them, we will inform them, “Firm X has this product, so you could need to go to this website.”
Daniel: In order that’s very fascinating. I don’t need to lose that time as a result of I assume you’re investing vital quantities to only get these calls, to start with, on the touchdown web page. And every name is efficacious to you. So that you’re saying that you simply practice your name heart workers whenever you don’t have the precise product for them, to seek out the precise product for them, wherever it’s from, to level them in one other course.
Daniel: That’s excellent.
Denis: That’s I feel, if you concentrate on HealthSpire, as I mentioned, is a subsidiary of Aetna. Aetna has been in existence for greater than 160 years. And if you happen to check out our competitors, maybe the one which’s the second oldest one is most certainly 100 years youthful than us. There’s a motive why Aetna survived all these many years or century and a half, greater than a century and a half, and that’s the power not solely to anticipate change that’s coming however truly to be round individuals who imagine that our job is, our fiduciary duty is, to earn money for our shareholders and to maximise that. However the way in which, how we obtain that’s the proper method. And whenever you put these two collectively I feel you maximize each. You maximize the monetary efficiency of the corporate and also you maximize an worker satisfaction engagement that then permits you to maintain the enterprise mannequin.
Daniel: It’s extra fulfilling to workers to essentially serve the client even once they’re not promoting their very own product, it feels like.
Denis: It’s human nature. I’d be stunned if you happen to, possibly not each certainly one of us, however if you happen to take us basically, our nature is to assist any person. Would you agree?
Denis: So we have to allow folks to be folks within the office.
Daniel: Let me ask you about that as a result of enabling folks to be folks within the office, that could possibly be a difficult name heart. So I ponder the way you monitor particular person efficiency. As a result of a number of what you’re speaking about would go towards the metrics we see in a number of different name facilities. It’s in regards to the quantity of calls they will make in a day or getting off the cellphone shortly, a few of these issues. It nearly looks like a manufacturing unit manufacturing. So how do you monitor particular person efficiency and permit folks to be folks in a name heart?
Denis: It’s fascinating you mentioned that as a result of earlier than taking this place about 18 months in the past, I by no means ran a enterprise, a startup. I used to be within the space of analytics my whole profession. It’s a operate of help which you contribute, but it surely’s actually circuitously chargeable for the efficiency of the enterprise. And after I began studying about this, after I began my job, I reached out to folks to see how different folks try this. It’s new to me.
I began occupied with issues reminiscent of common dealing with time, minimizing common dealing with time. And I used to be pondering, and I noticed, “No, I need to maximize the typical dealing with time, given the utmost productiveness.” In different phrases, we don’t monitor common dealing with time. With our brokers, we’ve got objectives, what we have to promote, after which we’ve got a really strict course of on how we promote.
That course of ensures that we keep in compliance with the federal in addition to state rules as a result of some merchandise are regulated by the federal authorities, some by state. The method by which we be certain that going from introducing your self to sale will not be two minutes as a result of in two minutes you can not perceive client wants. And even when they name you with a particular, preconceived notion of what they need to purchase, we nonetheless need you to know their wants as a result of given how complicated the business is, many individuals really want extra training.
So it’s simple to us. We make use of folks to promote however do it in a method that we would like it to be finished, which is definitely serving that buyer. And that’s what we monitor. We monitor productiveness and high quality. What number of calls you took, how a lot time spent, if you happen to bought two insurance policies right now and that’s your objective, you’re going to go dwelling. You go dwelling.
It’s important to enable folks, give folks objectives, allow them with the help they’ve and just be sure you rent people who find themselves accountable. And accountability comes down to creating certain that one does his or her job. A part of that isn’t how lengthy we discuss on the cellphone, what number of calls. It’s truly the way you’re doing the precise factor and the way we’re assembly our objectives.
Daniel: And it feels like diverging from the script when it’s mandatory?
Denis: Yeah, as a result of the script guides you thru the framework of gross sales. What I imply by that’s, typically if you happen to name any person to purchase insurance coverage merchandise, most certainly they promote just one product. And whenever you promote just one product, you don’t need to know the buyer wants. As a result of if the wants let you know they want product B, which you don’t promote, guess what? You don’t should promote. So that you’re pitching the product you may have.
Now we’ve got each product that’s on the market. So a script permits them to systematically undergo the method. And that’s vital as a result of most of our people who work for HealthSpire, together with myself, we don’t have gross sales expertise. And after some time, you see that the brokers begin not solely memorizing, it turns into very pure for them, however we nonetheless allow them to be them.
Their personalities have to return to the cellphone. The way in which they assess the conditions come to the cellphone. It can’t be a robotic speaking on the opposite finish of the cellphone and studying phrase for phrase, which in some instances you need to do whenever you get to the sure regulated issues. However within the technique of assessing the wants, promoting, we would like them to be themselves.
Daniel: Yeah, in order for you folks to be robots you may simply use AI at this level, proper? You carry that humanity and their character into it, feels like?
Denis: It’s important to as a result of the distinction between shopping for a retail merchandise, piece of clothes, and shopping for insurance coverage is completely different. We’re speaking about, what I might say, is that this emotional buy, “I like this jacket. I would like this jacket. Do I have the funds for? That’s the one factor I have to know. Do I prefer it? Do I have the funds for? Then I’m going to purchase it.”
Medical health insurance is a rational resolution. And in that rational resolution given the complexity, it’s good to have one other human being pondering with you thru what the implications are, what my choices are. “How do I select between these choices?” And although I do imagine in numbers and expertise, I don’t assume AI can get us that at this time limit. Even then, you’ll nonetheless have to have some human facet within the course of.
Daniel: Completely. Let me ask you lastly. You talked about Aetna is a 160-year-old firm. HealthSpire is a startup inside that firm.
Daniel: So what have you ever realized from that from possibly studying the most effective from a longtime enterprise firm and studying the most effective from startup tradition?
Denis: If you concentrate on Aetna and HealthSpire, its relationship between Aetna investing in HealthSpire and taking a threat to put money into a unique enterprise mannequin that doesn’t exist right now. Effectively, a minimum of doesn’t exist on the massive scale. So what I realized is that as in any startup it actually takes a couple of issues.
The primary turns into, “Are there people who find themselves prepared to take a position, which have a imaginative and prescient of the place they need to go?” I used to be fortunate sufficient to be a part of the corporate that has senior management who realized that the market is altering, the buyer demographics are altering, the profile of people who we make use of is altering. So we have to study this. And secondly, an individual that desires that job has to have a imaginative and prescient that’s aligned with the general imaginative and prescient of individuals which might be prepared to take a position. It’s important to have a sure degree of braveness to attempt issues that aren’t tried earlier than.
And most significantly, you need to encompass your self with individuals who have related traits. People who find themselves curious. People who find themselves not afraid of challenges. People who find themselves prepared to sacrifice their time when the time involves make issues work. And most significantly, folks perceive that the success of their group will not be in having the merchandise or the processes; It’s truly having the folks on the staff. When you have the precise folks and if you happen to make them pleased and content material, our clients might be pleased and content material.
Daniel: Wonderful. All proper. Effectively, thanks very a lot, Denis.
Denis: You’re very, very welcome.
Daniel: Thanks for sharing this check, and I hope you loved this experiment and studying somewhat extra about name heart optimization.
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